Graemble:lol - doom and gloom, i bet some of your friends also wear foil on their heads to protect themselves from govt departments trying to read their thoughts - hehe
Global Warming - what a joke. billions of dollars in gas bagging and a few million to do anything about it.
That particular guy I mentioned is about 66 years old, married, with two grown up kids (one works for gov't). He used to work as a financial controller for a few companies, with the last job having about 50 people reporting to him (including myself), they are multi-millionairs. She is a certified accountant that for the last few years ran her own business. They never did any farming in the past, but decided to retire to that setting, for a few reasons, peak oil being one of them.
Yeah, some of my acquaintances wear tinfoil hats, but lately a lot of stuff that used to be concidered tinfoil is now all of the sudden common knowledge :)
Also, just in case you missed this, USA passed a bill in the US House (now they have to accept it in Senate) that gives a blank cheque to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Basically, allowing US treasury to print money to rescue them. With both of them having 5 trillion mortgages on their books, the rescue will be catastrophic for the US dollar in the medium term... Just giving people here heads up..